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		<title>By: Sue Ring</title>
		<link>http://cleanupaustralia.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/progressing-the-debate/#comment-88</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe the twaddle about the cost to families. The ones who aren&#039;t being compensated are earning 3-4 times what I do and I can bring up 4 kids on it. Personally don&#039;t approve of the compensation, the more carbon polluting products, such as processed chicken nuggets should cost more, and people would then think twice about them. Pensioners are finally getting an indexed pension; which government brought them that, but do we really think that energy water and food costs aren&#039;t going to go up anyway whether we do this with a carbon tax or not. I can remember when a pie cost about 20c, I know people who remember buying them for 7c. Everything goes up, but we should shop more thoughtfully, and this is an opportunity not a &#039;cost&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe the twaddle about the cost to families. The ones who aren&#8217;t being compensated are earning 3-4 times what I do and I can bring up 4 kids on it. Personally don&#8217;t approve of the compensation, the more carbon polluting products, such as processed chicken nuggets should cost more, and people would then think twice about them. Pensioners are finally getting an indexed pension; which government brought them that, but do we really think that energy water and food costs aren&#8217;t going to go up anyway whether we do this with a carbon tax or not. I can remember when a pie cost about 20c, I know people who remember buying them for 7c. Everything goes up, but we should shop more thoughtfully, and this is an opportunity not a &#8216;cost&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ian

Its clear Australians want change. Its the same reason people blindly vote for the greens(sadly un-Australian communists).

What labor are doing is absurd and reckless.
What is the point in taxing someone/organisation then giving it back in concessions. Its just a money burning exercise. 

If you said to voters- We would like to create a new tax and 100% goes to renewable energy sources and green public transportation methods, What do you think the reaction would be?
I predict people would be perfectly fine with it. Business would surely embarrass it. People deep down know change is coming-they just want simple answers to a complex problem- and a way forward.

When you tax a business they can either put up prices or go offshore, we don&#039;t manufacture a lot of products here now so i don&#039;t know where people think jobs are going to come from in the future if we just keep on taxing them??!!

They are pouring between 46 to 80 BILLION dollars on stupid broadband. I worked out that for about 12 billion the GOV could buy solar power (5kw system) for 5 million homes. Now how would that look if our electricity consumption reduced by 33% instantly!!!!!
With no emissions and low maintenance costs!

That would be a change for the country.

What is some dumb tax going to do for the environment??????????

We are actually way behind the rest of the world with green technology because we really are low emitters. Not 2% like you quoted. We almost need a German PM who has vision. Germany are world leaders.

Your article is short sighted and lacks true vision of the real problem.

People want change, they are voting change, they even want to pay for it. But slogging businesses instead of involving them is economic suicide.

Just my two cents

Matt Smart]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian</p>
<p>Its clear Australians want change. Its the same reason people blindly vote for the greens(sadly un-Australian communists).</p>
<p>What labor are doing is absurd and reckless.<br />
What is the point in taxing someone/organisation then giving it back in concessions. Its just a money burning exercise. </p>
<p>If you said to voters- We would like to create a new tax and 100% goes to renewable energy sources and green public transportation methods, What do you think the reaction would be?<br />
I predict people would be perfectly fine with it. Business would surely embarrass it. People deep down know change is coming-they just want simple answers to a complex problem- and a way forward.</p>
<p>When you tax a business they can either put up prices or go offshore, we don&#8217;t manufacture a lot of products here now so i don&#8217;t know where people think jobs are going to come from in the future if we just keep on taxing them??!!</p>
<p>They are pouring between 46 to 80 BILLION dollars on stupid broadband. I worked out that for about 12 billion the GOV could buy solar power (5kw system) for 5 million homes. Now how would that look if our electricity consumption reduced by 33% instantly!!!!!<br />
With no emissions and low maintenance costs!</p>
<p>That would be a change for the country.</p>
<p>What is some dumb tax going to do for the environment??????????</p>
<p>We are actually way behind the rest of the world with green technology because we really are low emitters. Not 2% like you quoted. We almost need a German PM who has vision. Germany are world leaders.</p>
<p>Your article is short sighted and lacks true vision of the real problem.</p>
<p>People want change, they are voting change, they even want to pay for it. But slogging businesses instead of involving them is economic suicide.</p>
<p>Just my two cents</p>
<p>Matt Smart</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Carseldine</title>
		<link>http://cleanupaustralia.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/progressing-the-debate/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Carseldine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said Ian.  I cannot agree more.

Barbara Carseldine
author of Creating a Culture with a Reverence for Water]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Ian.  I cannot agree more.</p>
<p>Barbara Carseldine<br />
author of Creating a Culture with a Reverence for Water</p>
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